Reading Fast and Neurodiversity
(also on @UltimApe's Garden )
How do you read so fast? Any tips? I used http://freereadingtest.com to get a measure and I'm still only at 200wpm and am trying to figure out why.
Also, do u think there is any real benefit to the flashing word speed reader apps? ( "Rapid serial visual presentation")
I like them. I can read about 1200 wpm with those RSVP things. Faster if my monitor's refresh rate can handle it. Literally doubles my normal reading speed.
It loses the spatial aspect of the page tho, so it doesn't work well for stuff that requires going back and forth between things (like science pubs).
It depends a lot on your ability track eyes across the page and general issues with motor control. You also can get a lot faster if the thing takes into account the eye position like how spritz does. There was an open source alternative to this that was nice.
Reading thru my http://are.na notes, it seems I was using "squirt" for a while to train. I also collected a bunch of notes on speed reading
IMHO, a good one would also be watching your eyes for blinking,and none of the existing software does that well. The pacing also often doesn't adapt to word complexity at all and treats each word the same. That might not be ideal for reading comprehension. For actually reading, It seems more like a novelty than anything.
If you struggle with reading issues, I recommend playing around with something like a kindle. They give pretty good controls for line-width / gutter height and text size that helped my ex read a lot faster than she did with normal books. She had pretty bad dyslexia.
I've been looking for a plugin for browser that helps with this, but websites are all too unique to help. When my eyes were having trouble I just copied text out into word/open office and changed the line spacing instead.
There are ways to mess with this via CSS, but without some kind of plugin to automate it, it's usually not worth it unless you have an entire book to read.
The CSS property is "line-height" you can see how it changes in this demo (click the boxes on the left to select and the text should adapt)
It gives a sort of natural ruler effect to help the eye move between lines.
How do you train yourself to read faster? I've been using a tool on the ipad that has a flashing text and a line-highlight. What one is better?
Most optimizations people have for speed reading are about eye scanning. Typically the less your eye jumps around and back-tracks, the faster you can read. Sometimes problems here are due to motor control issues in the brain.
Those flashing text ones are nifty because they literally remove the need to move the eye.
Thinking about it as training exercises, you can train your eye with spritz etc. to lock onto the best part of a word for reading, and then use line spacing and other tools to help get your eye to flow in straight lines. Between both of them, your brain can rewire to be better at it.
Over time your brain learns to read entire words at a "glance". and then you can start expanding how many words you read at once by training more effective use of your eye's center vision area where lines are most acute.
So I think of those flashing word things as a tool to train a specific kind of pattern recognition but not necessarily good for all the time stuff.
The highlight mode there looks like a way to train your eyes to move across the page. I'd say go only as fast as you can comprehend things with it and then push yourself a bit in bursts. If it is indeed a learning phenomena, it might be like how sometimes your brain needs to sleep to integrate the learning too.
Maybe suggest alternating between normal, highlight, and flash? like a different mode each day. Flash day is good for word shape recognition. Highlight day is good for eye movement consistency, and then regular day is to allow you to integrate the two skills without the aids and test to see if you are improving.
I think of it like how athletes will exercise individual muscles and for a while and then also spend some time doing their sport in practice. What matters is how good you get at regular reading, so don't worry if your flash or highlight reading isn't improving.
I think the trick is to figure out which "muscles" needs to be exercised. I couldn't tell you how to figure that out tho. I believe you need to play around with that on your own and experiment.
Something I remember growing up that may have been a big help for my reading was having a parent read to me while moving their finger along the page along with the words as they went. It seems to be a way to train the eye without depending as much on reading comprehension because their spoken word was compensating for needing to read.
So might recommend seeing if you can get it to speak to you? or find another app that can do word highlight-as-it-reads.
Do you ever have trouble reading
When my immune system isn't doing well, I start hallucinating words. And I have to make sure lines of text aren't too long otherwise I end up re-reading the same line over and over.
My big problem is with my own writing. I don't notice duplicated words words or speeling mistaks. I remember what I meant to write, so when I read thru again to check, its like my brain just edits out the mistakes.
You don't really seem to make many mistakes
I've been feeling really good today! I also seem to be thinking faster than usual too. I've been doing better since doing the dog trial. I don't seem to encounter brain fog as much.
Oh, that might mean my glasses being messed up could be working against me? I also have a slight lazy eye.
Strong feelings: don't train yourself to speed read with distorted glasses. That's gonna be training the eye to move weird.
Def look at fixing glasses or any kind of visual distortion first before you go about training anything.
I imagine part of the challenge with speed reading is adapting to different peoples needs. Hard to say really what would be good, and we may need to customize things to the person.
Def think getting it so you're not having fatigue from glasses distortions would be good to explore.
I was looking into these "Hillary Clinton's special eyeglasses to stop 'double vision'" a while back. Apparently there are some strange eye distortion glasses that have helped autistic kids too. The mental fatigue thing with vision problems is pretty real.
I don't know how to fix the lazy eye thing yet that some people have. I know that the lateral eye function thing shows up in both autism and Multiple Sclerosis. My left eye has really weird vision compared to my right. I actually have two different color shades.
Exercise and training can help, but I suspect there is more going on with coordination between things like ciliary muscles (iris) and the socket moving muscles and how the brain learns to move them.
It autistic types, it seems the brain itself literally can be lopsided a bit, with the eye being strange as a result.
Brains of autistic people show unusual left-right symmetry
I suspect it's related to epigenetic expression factors tied to neurodegenerative disorders. This is especially interesting to me as this phenomena shows up in Multiple Sclerosis too. There are some fascinating parallels between the two disorders that people seem to be overlooking (hah).
Tendon development and gene expression factors show up during gestation at the same time as the brain forms. It was actually related to one of my first hunches around genetics. The COMT gene plays a role here, but there is a lot more going on. COMT gene influences TMJ and that is another strange thing that shows up more often than not in my forays into research.
I do think you can perhaps change the expression thru some kind of physical therapy and diet, but what that is I can't tell you.
Genetic, epigenetic, and mechanistic studies of temporomandibular disorders and overlapping pain conditions
All this stuff ties to brain development factors and eye factors. so the hunch about TMJ is good. I just can't say how to actually address it.
I can see better in my right ----> eye
What I do know is that major depression also has asymmetry in how the brain shrinks. So presumably things that improve depression would also help the brain here? If that factor is some how reversible, it may be tied to remyelinating of the brain in Multiple Sclerosis, and so may also be tied to eye function in the same way. But this is more just a hunch.
Something that has been on my mind lately are feedback loops. How a small bias ends up building up due to behavior cause more of something to express.
Like a penchant for sweet flavors / pica in autistics can lead to autistic types eating lead paint (lead acetate taste sweet), which can lead to more autistic behaviors. That kind of thing can become self reinforcing because it amplifies each other.
For me and couple people in my family, sucking my thumb on one side may have enhanced a preexisting bias, maybe autoimmune or a viral infection, or some of other factor.
Nobody is perfectly symmetrical IIRC, so its fascinating to think that maybe what occurs here is a good feature that ends up being on the extreme end.
There has been studies on chickens showing that they actually need to have a slight asymmetry because otherwise they get too distracted by stimulus because both eyes compete over the attention.
In this context, Feedback loops tend to have dampening effects to prevent it from hitting extremes. If it is epigenetic factors and stuff like thumb sucking drives it, what would be dampening it, I wonder?
I personally think this kind of thing is awesome. My bias is to reframe this stuff as super-powers in disguise. If we can find out more about this space, we may even be able to find alternate pathways that would compensate for the negative aspects of it.
A more direct example for me is how the liver processes serotonin. I found out that my liver is on a hair pin trigger here. There's a sort of chemical switch that senses how much is in the blood, and when it fires off the liver shifts into metabolizing it away. Mine is set very low from what I understand of the genetics. So instead of depending on my body to maintain serotonin, I figured that I could help my depression and gut health by focusing on more rapid production of it.
Too much serotonin is bad, but so is too little, so homeostatic regulation helps the body keep within an ideal. Its like shivering when you are cold or sweating when you are hot. People don't typically sweat all the time, or shiver all the time.
But I actually do sweat a lot more than most, which is probably an adaptation tied to serotonin processes (serotonin controls body temperature). That and just problems with insulin regulation tied to the M.S.
So you see it as a superpower because it gives you more insight into what is going on in your body than other people typically have?
The autism bits? Yeah. But more than this, I think part of it literally is a skill that gives me super powers. I can't keep track of time or know what day it is, or even remember faces or names. But my spatial memory is extremely over developed. And to compensate for my other memory issues I've leaned into using it. So like sucking the thumb, it's changed how my brain was trained and grew.
I can't prove this idea until I can get a brain scan.
First there is just the deficit, the negative trait. But then learning to compensate for it kicks in. Like recognizing faces. I can do that better now after learning I can retrain what I have to keep track of it better. I found I can encode emotions in my spatial memory. So I encode faces by the way people make me feel looking at them. Synesthesia like.
An example of the kind of encoding I can do now: A nose makes me happy sometimes. It reminds me of ex wife's, or a childhood friend. A chin and lips can trigger laughter (a friend I remember from it is funny). And then eyes are and hair can trigger annoyance (Say from my sister annoying me when I was young).
Breaking it down like that lets me store it more effectively.
Most of it this requires focus and attention to do, and my diet / gut problems challenge my ability to keep this associative-memory active all the time.
High upkeep, costly to do. That fatigue thing from the glasses would make it impossible for me to do, for example. The super spatial memory thing is impossible when I'm tired. It ends up a jumbled mess.
It's really all about compensating. The weaknesses are still there, they just get accounted for. It's a weakness that I can predict and account for now somewhat.
Like, I can predict that if you pop up in my memory, I might call you "john from twitter". I know my brain will transpose the memory of my friend's name with yours. So in my notes I'll put "john not john" as a short hand for when I need help to get the right memory.
In this case, the compensation is a speed/accuracy tradeoff. Wandering thru my notes take a while sometimes, especially when I'm fatigued.
when did you start developing these memory devices? What age?
1998-1999? So about 11yo. I was forgetting to do homework and realized I needed a way to remember dates better. Started organizing my trapper-keeper spatially. Learned how librarians organized books in space and it mingled with some stuff I was learning about computer algorithms about compression.
I have a bookmark to Wolfram Alpha to tell me how old I am, cuz I always forget, lol. says I'm 34. I thought I was 36 lmao
I've always had the spatial memory weirdness. It seems sometimes common among autistics. It can get pretty extreme.
Nonverbal autistic boy, 8, learns to communicate with mum through Google Maps
I've only had issues with processing speed, not that kind of thing. Is that normal for autistics?
I've always been particularly unique so I can't really say what normal is. The sleep problems / non-24-hour syndrome seems rare even among autistics.
There's this added annoyance about how autism as a label is a sort of black box diagnostic of traits. it doesn't really concern it self with all of them. There may be a subtype thing going on that we just don't have the data to figure out.
My processing speed changes quite drastically too. some studies on brain scanning of autistics suggested that brain activity fluctuates quite a bit thru the day. This stuff is only really now happening because before the brain scanning tech wasn't functionally wearable whiled doing basic tasks.
If I eat things that causes my gf's insulin to spike (she's type 2 diabetic) I noticed I get dumb after a few days on it. It's like my brain starts starving itself or something. Something weird going on there, cuz I don't measure as having diabetes symptoms.
Whenever I find something that helps me think it always interacts with TRPV1 or TPRM8. hot and cold sensory neurons that have an impact on smooth muscle tissue.
Dumb stuff like making sure I don't have to poop, or taking a hot shower. It all seems to come down to blood vessel regulation. Smooth muscle tissue is the kind of muscles that impact blood flow in the brain.
You have M.S. right so does that make you constipated hence the dog shit. Do stimulants affect you?
I think it's Crohn's / IBD or IBS related. Gut inflammation => constipation => immune flair up => M.S. activation.
I haven't had Crohn's symptoms since a week after starting the dog shit :o
The insulin seems to be tied to M.S. stuff too. Insulin problems makes people cold. I was having really weird cold hands and feet a couple years ago until I figured that out. Switching to keto made a huge difference for me, but it wasn't a panacea. Cold feet runs in my family and it's been with me since puberty.
Do you mean the Raynaud's phenomenon?
yeah, tho it wasn't as extreme as people show online. I don't have the full cohort of genetics there. Never went completely 'black'. but def would lose color and less blood flow.
My whole hands and feet turned white, it never had the distinct lines like they show.
Raynaud’s phenomenon (examples)
What genes should I look at?
Raynaud's isn't well understood, so there is strange overlap with other autoimmune diseases.
For example, most of these have been at least partially implicated as contributing to it. These are all the Crohn's risk genes I have.
rs7574865 rs1050152 rs2066847 rs2201841 rs7807268 rs3814570 rs12037606 rs6601764 rs11209026
But there are also ones in rheumatoid arthritis and M.S. that show up. They tend to also overlap with Sjogren's syndrome and lupus.
I got a smattering of them all, tho I bias toward RA and Sjogren's on top of the obvious M.S. and Crohn's ones.
I think this site explores the associations a bit but it's been a while since I was digging in so the memories aren't fresh.
Cuz they don't understand specifically what causes Raynaud's, the genes aren't very specific. It may be viral / autoimmune caused, so it may explain why genetics aren't definitive.
An Autoimmune Basis for Raynaud’s Phenomenon: Murine Model and Human Disease
My big hunch is it's not predominately genetic, but Gene expression / epigenetic, and everyone looking for genes have been searching for the wrong answers.
Lots of risk factors for autism involve diabetes and infection in mother. Both of these impact gene expression. Throw in gut bacteria's impact on this space, and weird findings about famines during pregnancy causing autism/schizophrenia risk in children...
Easy to extend this model of thinking to other poorly understood disorders like Raynaud's. The thing we are overlooking is that both diet and gut microbiota are past down just as much as genes.
Genes create the environment
I think gut and diet can compensate for so much. If I eat lactobacillus lactis, it literally doesn't matter that I have lactose intolerance genes as the milk stops causing me problems.
And fermenting stuff externally to get nutrients the body doesn't process well is another thing that humans have done for at least 40,000 years.
As far as I can tell we've co-evolved with this kind of thing going on. Just as much as how insects co-evolve with mushrooms and flowers to provide food and medicine.
Western science seems to have hyper-fixated on genetics as the only way that Darwin's decent with modification can take place. As an institution it completely ignores any other mechanism that could impact this space.
We got studies like this one:
We then created a manipulated microbial community with titrated doses of Collinsella, demonstrating that manipulation of the composition of the microbiome under both natural and controlled conditions leads to distinct and predictable gene expression profiles in host cells. Taken together, our results suggest that specific microbes play an important role in regulating expression of individual host genes involved in human complex traits.
Gut Microbiota Has a Widespread and Modifiable Effect on Host Gene Regulation
But everyone that is in the field ignores it or doesn't get the implications of how far reaching this is. We're raised from childhood to have one particular view on how evolution happens and its always "Gene this, gene that".
It is in the end, but its interactions between genetics and inputs at a higher level. We consider organisms as individuals. But evolution also acts on groups too. Throw in horizonal gene transfer between bacteria and viral effects and most of the modern theories on genetic evolution suddenly seem completely wrong in how they are applied.
Sorry, this is me being a crank :)
I think I may be fundamentally confused about what a gene is?
So typically SNPs like you'd see in promethease are shared as genes. Larger units that consist of multiple Single Nucleotide Pairs. Genes tend to be remixed thru sexual selection as entire units, all the SNPs at once.
Mutations are quite rare in this process. And most of the time they are benign. Even when they do mutate something, we also often have multiple copies so if one copy is making a bad / dysfunction protein, the other ones can compensate.
Annoyingly, 23andMe doesn't' actually tell us 'copy numbers'. which is kinda important for some genes like redheadedness. useful to know since many of the traits like that also impact dopamine and other important neurochemistry.
A long conversation about how the brain impacts speed reading, and how my model of disease is intertwined into this space.