Intercepted Podcast: Ruth Wilson Gilmore on Abolition

The movement to defund the police in the United States is gaining unprecedented momentum as protests continue across the globe. This week on Intercepted: Chenjerai Kumanyika, assistant professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University, hosts a special two-part discussion. Kumanyika is co-host of the podcasts "Uncivil" and "Scene on Radio."