JZ I think the idea of an artist standing outside society is still alive. I think it’s an important role. It’s always been an underappreciated role, we become victims, we become targets, because our lifestyle has to be different in order to get the job done. And we make a lot of sacrifices to do what we do.
MG I totally agree, but some artists have accepted the society’s values, and just amplified them.
JZ That’s the road to hell, if you ask me. You know, the elitist nature of what you do is so fascinating. Because you’re not an elitist person at all, and the process of what you’re doing is so real.