Kanye West: … also. So, this is how it works. They have two main- main main schools that have raised the fashion icons, Parson in New York and St. Martins in London. Bernard, I know, and Pinault, that's their recruiting, you know, camp. They go there. And now, the breakthrough with Virgil is now we have someone who's come from Donda, who's come from the school of Kanye West. And I hear people talk about, "Aw, he ain't go to school." Oh, he- we went to school alright.

Charlamagne: Alright. (laughs)

Kanye West: (laughs) We went to school. We was doin' jpegs in Japan. And we, we we-, we were makin' Photoshop so much and not makin' clothes that we, we started just joking about the jpegs, like, "did you shrink my jpeg?"

Charlamagne: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Kanye West: (laughs) "Did you dye my jpeg and shit?" We- 'cause we couldn't figure out how to actually make the clothes, so we'd just do it in Photoshop, and Virgil became the fastest Photoshop artist that I've ever met in my life. We'd be sittin' in a … you know- you know right before we went to Fendi, you know just Photoshopin' things.

Charlamagne: 'Cause y'all interned at Fendi.

Kanye West: We interned at Fendi, but we ain't do shit, bruh. We ain't get to do nuttin'. I was just happy to have a key card.